Dr. Melissa Cady discusses Dr. Joe Tatta's journey as a physical therapist while acquiring additional training as a nutritionist and pain educator. They also discuss why it can be so difficult to help those challenged by pain.
Timeline:
01:00 Joe’s background and training
04:00 Why the nutrition training
06:15 What he has learned about the online pain experiment
08:25 We do not have enough clinicians to help people with pain
09:10 Education is not alone to create behavior change
10:55 How to help patients with behavior change
15:00 His experience with patients who have tried “everything”
16:00 Admitting that a clinician may not be able to change a patient’s pain
17:00 Be curious
18:00 Controlling, eliminating, or avoiding pain
20:40 Live Life to help pain (vs. holding off life to eliminate pain first)
23:00 Creative hopelessness activity
25:15 You can’t just turn off anger or other emotions like a switch; similar to pain
26:20 Negative effects of not feeling pain
28:45 Multidisciplinary pain clinics
31:00 More efficient with one clinician due to better bond
32:00 Radical Relief book with 36 short chapters
34:00 How Dr. Cady deals with her own pain
36:30 STOP activity: Stop → Take a breath → Observe → Proceed
38:00 Be intentional and aware
39:00 Be comfortable with being uncomfortable
40:00 Can you really get rid of pain?
You can learn more about Joe Tatta and his work at: https://www.integrativepainscienceinstitute.com/
You can also find his most recent book Radical Relief, which was discussed during the interview, here:
https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Relief-Mindfulness-Acceptance-Commitment/dp/1942798229